“Now I’m going to test your numerology skills by asking you to think about the magic seven …Most of you will know that seven is quite a number         speech by  Christine Lagarde, President of IMF on 15 January 2014

          Thus, a 777, flight 17, goes down on 7/17.

17 July, Eastern Ukraine: A Malaysian Boeing 777 aircraft exploded into flames at 33,000ft, allegedly hit by a surface-to-air missile

Hmm, what plane could that have been? the daily Malaysian Airlines MH17 flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur was CANCELLED THAT DAY – See authentic flight data at: http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/mh17/ So, it did not fly…

The Malaysian Airline Boeing 777 shot sown in March over Indian Ocean ‘is definitely the same’ as that shot down over Ukraine: see video debate between Morris and Joaquin.



Ukraine Jets shadowed Malaysian plane before shootdown

“eyewitnesses in the Donetsk region saw Ukrainian warplanes near the passenger jet. They say they heard sounds of powerful blasts and saw a Ukraine warplane shortly before the crash. (ITAR Tass)”

This info comes from a Kiev air traffic controller who is Spanish but working in the Ukraine.Buk-M1

“There was an unexplained change of course of the Malaysian MH17 flight which took the aircraft directly over the Eastern Ukraine warzone.  A Spanish air controller confirmed a conflict between the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of the Interior intimating that the order concerning the downing of the aircraft came from the Ministry of the Interior, which is dominated by Svoboda and Right Sector. He also said that the MH17 flight was escorted by Ukrainian fighter jets minutes before it was downed. It is worth noting that the presence of the Ukraine fighter jets reported by the Spanish air traffic controller was confirmed by eyewitness reports in the Donetsk region.

He was taken off duty as a civil air-traffic controller along with other foreigners immediately after a Malaysia Airlines passenger aircraft was shot down over the Eastern Ukraine killing 295 passengers and crew on board. The air traffic controller suggested in a private evaluation and basing it on military sources in Kiev, that the Ukrainian military was behind this shoot down. Radar records were immediately confiscated after it became clear a passenger jet was shot down. Military air traffic controllers in internal communication acknowledged the military was involved, and some military chatter said they did not know where the order to shoot down the plane originated from.

The plane was escorted by two Ukrainian fighter jets until 3 minutes before it disappeared from radar.

The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. “[We] would like to get an explanation as to why the military jet was flying along a civil aviation corridor at almost the same time and at the same level as a passenger plane” – Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov, head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russia’s military forces, speaking at a media conference in Moscow on 21st July. He added, “It’s equipped with air-to-air R-60 missiles that can hit a target at a distance up to 12km, up to 5km for sure.” A US surveillance satellite was overhead at the time, and he urged the US to publish the space photos and data captured by it: “This may be a coincidence, but the US satellite flew over Ukraine at exactly the same time when the Malaysian airliner crashed.”

Shot Down by a Jet

Eyewitness report: “”[I] saw a spinning plane without a wing with something falling out of it. The plane was shot down,” he told RT. “There were explosions in the sky. And apart from the loud sounds of the plane itself, I heard the buzz which fighter jets make.”

That report concurs with reports of Ukranian fighter jets shadowing the plane immediately before it was blown out of the sky.

“The metal fuselage of the Boeing-777 showed no traces of deep and long scratch marks from the steel balls delivered in the warhead of a Buk ground-to-air missile”; plus, “the starboard (right-wing) jet engine was badly damaged and caught fire, pointing to a hit by a smaller air-to-air missile launched from a fighter interceptor, flying at about the same altitude”; and the midsection was “blown outward and not inward,” indicating a bomb blast inside the cargo bay.   These expert observations suggest that a NATO interceptor fired a heat-seeking missile at a jet engine, triggering a fire. The flames were expected to move up the fuel lines inside the wing to set fire to the plane and incinerate all contents.

No-one saw any Buk missile vapor-trail: “We have noted that were a missile used, an exhaust trail would have been visible for many miles and would have been photographed.  It was not and, thus, never existed.  Locals were questioned, none saw a launch nor exhausts” – that is the judgement of the Veterans Today staff, given on  25th July.

Permission denied to fly high

Malaysia Airlines had filed a flight plan requesting to fly at 35,000 feet throughout Ukraine airspace but was instructed by Ukraine air traffic control to fly at 33,000 feet upon entry. Upon entering Ukrainian airspace, the ‘MH17’ plane was instructed by Ukrainian air traffic control to fly at 33,000 feet. (Reuters)

Notice the characteristic way blame is abruptly laid out, before anyone can know who did it – exactly as Blair blamed Muslims for the 7/7 London bombings, or as US authorities for 9/11 on the same day. At once the media are braying, Putin, Putin. That is the sign of a pre-staged event.

A video blaming Russia for the shootdown was made apparently by the Ukraine government on the 16th the day before. It has since been deleted however memory remains on the Web – the criminals cannot altogether delete their traces. This is very typical for fabricated-terror events: a hiccup in the time-sequence (for more details of this pre-event fabrication, see Aangirfan). Likewise, a supposed intercepted radio transcript of rebels discussing their shootdown of the plane was found by an audio analysis expert to be fake:

” The tape’s second fragment consists of three pieces but was presented as a single audio recording. However, a spectral and time analysis has showed that the dialog was cut into pieces and then assembled… the audio file has preserved time marks which show that the dialog was assembled from various episodes”

– the view of award winning former Associated Press reporter Robert Parry as reported on Prison Planet.

What else was fabricated? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XOnCckiYlk – post a comment!

Way off course

Planes since April have stayed clear of the East Ukraine battle-zone.

MH17 was NOT supposed to over fly Eastern Ukraine – it should have flown over Western Ukraine. Jim Stone wondered: “How come it disappeared from trackers in west Ukraine and and appears to have traveled about 1000 km into eastern Ukraine some 200 km off route without being challenged by Ukrainian authorities?”

‘MH17 deviated from the civilian flight path, which should cross close to the exit mouth of the Azov Sea, away from the current battle zone between the Ukraine military and militant ethnic Russian irregulars. Instead its navigation steered the jetliner on a more northerly course in contested airspace, where Ukraine military aircraft conduct both air strikes and troop transport missions, putting the Malaysian Airlines jet into jeopardy.’

This flight was 300 miles off its normal course, reported The Telegraph.  It was much further north than it should have been. The Telegraph quoted Robert Mark, a commercial pilot who edits Aviation International News Safety magazine, as saying:

I can only tell you as a commercial pilot myself that if we had been routed that way, with what’s been going on in the Ukraine and the Russian border over the last few weeks and months, I would never have accepted that route.

Israeli tampering with MH17 at Amsterdam airport?

Plane shoot down: approximately 14:15 UTC. Israeli assault on Gaza: 14:00 UTC. See a connection there? And when you consider the fact that it took time to confirm the downing, the two times actually match even more closely. It blocked out the terrible news of Israel’s assault on Gaza.

Why did the plane diverge from its proper flight path? Israel has a definite connection to this airport: “Security at Schipol Airport is operated by ICTS, an Israeli-owned airport security company based in The Netherlands founded by former officers of the Shin Beit intelligence agency. Its subsidiaries are also involved in key security functions there, including ProCheck, Ramasso and I-SEC”

Source:    Yoichi Shimatsu, who earlier discovered “many aspects of the Israeli security set-up at Schipol International Airport and the role of the Mossad intelligence agency in secret operations there, one of Europe’s business transport hubs” – Malaysia has been an outspoken voice in the UN and the world media on Palestinian rights in Gaza. (Y.S. was former editor of The Japan Times Weekly in Tokyo).

MH17 had two different departure times: it took off from Schiphol Airport at 12.15 local time (here,and here) but also fifteen minutes later at 21.31 (herehereand here) This is very fishy – a normal flight would have only one departure time.

Malaysian government denied access to crash site

“It would be “inhuman” if “we are not allowed” to the site of Malaysian plane crash in Donetsk Region, eastern Ukraine, said Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai (19th July). He added that Malaysian authorities “are concerned” over the security zone of the area as evidence hasn’t been secured.”

– ie, two days after, Malaysian officials have not been allowed to visit the crash site – and don’t know who is looking after it. The Malaysian transport minister added “There is no confirmation on who has flight recorders” – they have not been given the black boxes. Finally, on 23rd July, the black boxes were handed over in London to the Ministry of Defence, its Air Accidents Investigation Branch Farnborough. Uh-huh. I’m sure we’ll all be able to believe what they tell us about it.

Fabricated terror events often have simulated deaths. So let’s note that on Saturday 19th there were reports: ”

Donetsk self-defense forces have denied the claims that they have taken the bodies of 36 passengers of Malaysian plane… Earlier there were unconfirmed reports by Ukrainian media that anti-government troops have removed the bodies. (source: RT)


Buk missile system was government-owned

The surface-to-air missiles in the vicinity and possibly used were state-owned, not held by rebels:

A division of Buk missile systems of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was, according to Pravda, deployed to the Donetsk Oblast on July 15, two days before the downing of the Malaysian airlines MH17 flight. The Buk missile system has the capabilities of downing an aircraft flying at 35,000 feet. (Global Research)

While the Pravda report remains to be confirmed, Russian Defense sources confirm the presence of several missile batteries in the Donesk oblast operated by the Ukraine armed forces:

‘The Ukrainian military has several batteries of Buk surface-to-air missile systems with at least 27 launchers, capable of bringing down high-flying jets, in the Donetsk region where the Malaysian passenger plane crashed, Russian Defense Ministry said”(RT, July 17, 2014)

Of significance, the Prosecutor General of Ukraine Vitaliy Yarema confirmed that the Donesk rebels do not have Buk or S 300 ground to air missiles which could have downed the plane. According to the Kiev Post report: “Ukrainian prosecutor general says militants did not seize Ukrainian air defense launchers”

Members of illegal armed units have not seized air defense launchers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Donetsk, Ukrainian Prosecutor General Vitaliy Yarema said. (Kiev Post)

Yarema also confirmed that according to military sources:

“After the passenger airliner was downed, the military reported to the president that terrorists do not have our air defense missile systems Buk and S-300,” (quoted by Itar-Tass).

Immediately after the downing of MH17, an adviser to the Ukrainian Minister of Internal Affairs Mr. Anton Gerashchenko stated categorically that the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 MH17:

“had been downed by an air defense missile system Buk” (without however mentioning who was behind the missile operation)

Reported from the Ukraine Interfax News Agency: Anton Gerashchenko “said on Facebook that the plane was flying at an altitude of 33,000 feet when it was hit by a missile fired from a Buk launcher.”

NB, these stories are probably bogus –   “Buk missiles produce a very noticeable plume, and no one documented any. In the day of cell phone cams, I would say zero documentation of something so noticeable means no missile launch.” Jim Stone.

Fake evidence of missile launch systems in Eastern Ukraine was released by the Ukraine’s security services in the form of a photograph of a huge missile launcher in the rebel-controlled town of Torez, very near where the MH17 crashed. However when an Independent journalist went there and showed the picture to locals, they all denied that any such launcher had ever been there: “All the Ukrainian media is lying,” said one man, Andrei Sushparnov. “We have no missiles. If we did, would the Ukrainians be bombing our cities?”.

Paul Craig Roberts: ‘a Washington operation’

The wise US commentator Paul Craig Roberts wrote on July 17th:

The appearance of a Washington operation is present. All the warmongers were ready on cue. US Vice President Joe Biden declared that the airliner was “blown out of the sky.” It was “not an accident.” Why would a person without an agenda be so declarative prior to having any information? Clearly, Biden was not implying that it was Kiev that blew the airliner out of the sky. Biden was at work in advance of the evidence blaming Russia. Indeed, the way Washington operates, it will pile on blame until it needs no evidence.
Senator John McCain jumped on the supposition that there were US citizens aboard to call for punitive actions against Russia before the passenger list and the cause of the airliner’s fate are known. The “investigation” is being conducted by Washington’s puppet regime in Kiev. I think we already know what the conclusion will be.
The probability is high that we are going to have more fabricated evidence, such as the fabricated evidence presented by US Secretary of State Colin Powell to the UN “proving” the existence of the non-existent Iraqi “weapons of mass destruction.” Washington has succeeded with so many lies, deceptions and crimes that it believes that it can always succeed again.
At this time as I write, we have no reliable information about the airliner, but the Roman question always pertains: “Who benefits?” There is no conceivable motive for separatists to shoot down an airliner, but Washington did have a motive–to frame-up Russia–and possibly a second motive. Among the reports or rumors there is one that says Putin’s presidential plane flew a similar route to that of the Malaysian airliner within 37 minutes of one another [NB I suggest this is unlikely, NK]. This report has led to speculation that Washington decided to rid itself of Putin and mistook the Malaysian airliner for Putin’s jet. RT reports that the two airplanes are similar in appearance.http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/

(Forget that Putin-plane mistake story, BUT note that the annual BRICS conference had just finished (Brazil 14-16 July), and Putin was flying home from it. A BRICS bank had been setup – wonderful news for the human race! The Empire is enraged: “MH17 is US-UK answer to launch of BRICS bank at Forteleza summit-biggest challenge to IMF & Worldbank since 1944 – WebsterTarpley.- listen to his talk on the subject) NB, The shootdown was on the same date as the flight TWA flight 800 was blown out of the sky, viz July 17th, 1996.



Immediately after the shoot down, foreign people entered the control tower at Kiev Borispol Airport which was monitoring flight MH17 and removed the normal workers and started doing their jobs. These “replacements by force” were obviously put there to front the official story. The normal control tower staff then reported the presence of two fighter jet escorts via Twitter:

17 jULY

10:21 “Kiev Authorities, trying to make looks like an attack by pro-Russian”

10:24 “warning! It can be a downing, Malaysia Airlines B777 in ukraine, 280 passengers”

10:25 “Warning! Kiev have what they wanted”

10:25 “[Miitary] has taken control of ATC in Kiev”

10:27 “The Malaysia Airlines B777 plane disappeared from the radar, there was no communication of any anomaly, confirmed”

10:30 “Plane shot down, shot down, shot down, no accident”

10:31 “Kiev have what they wanted, I said in the first tw [Tweets], Kiev is responsible @ ActualidadRT”

10:35 “An accident that is not quite normal, they are threatening us in the same tower of Kiev airport”

10:35 “they will take from our phones and others stuff at any moment”

10:38 “Before They remove my phone or they break my head, shot down by Kiev”

11:12 “We have confirmation. Plane downed, Kiev authorities already have the information, downed, we are calm now”

11:13 “What are doing foreigners with kiev authorities in the tower? Gathering all the information”

11:15 “When possible I´ll keep writing”

11:48 The B777 plane flew escorted by Ukraine jet fighter until 2 minutes before disappearing from the radar,

11:54 “If kiev authorities want to tell the truth, It´s gathered, 2 jet fighters flew very close minutes before, wasn’t downed by a fighter”

12:00 “Malaysia Airlines B777 plane just disappeared and Kiev military authority informed us of the downing, How they knew?”

12:00 “7:00 minutes after [plane dissapeared], the downing was notified, later our tower was taken with foreigner staff, they still here ”

12:01 “all this is gathered in radars, to the unbelieving, shot down by kiev, here we know it and military air traffic control also”

13:15 “Here the military commanders manage and support it could be military following other orders , but no, the pro-Russian”

13:29,.“Interior Minister knew what the fighters were doing in the area, the defense minister didn’t.”

13:31 “Military confirm It was Ukraine, but still does not know where the order came from”

13:36 “Days ago I said here, kiev military wanted to rise against the current president, this may be a way, ordered by timoshenko [following timishenko orders]”

13:38 “The fighters flew close to 777, up to 3 minutes before disappearing from the radar, just 3 minutes”

13:43 “Airspace closed”

13:45 “Airspace is closed, more downings feared”

15:17 “military control now officially [say] the plane was shot down by missile”

15:23“Government has the official report signed by the control military authorities in Kiev,,,, [plane] shot down”

15:26 “The report indicates where the missile had come out [from], and specified is not from the selfdefence in rebel areas”

15:34 “Military radar collected data from missile fired to the plane, civilian radars didn’t”

15:36 “military high command did not gave the order to fire the missile, someone screw it ine the name of ukraine”

15:38 “For those who do not know, Let’s say, there are military under the orders of the defense minister and military under the orders of Interior Minister”

15:38 “The military under the orders of Interior Minister knew what happened all the time .”

16:06 “Military commanders here (ATC) control tower, confirm that the missile is from the ukranian army,”

16:07 “military commanders that knew it and others didn´t ,”

16:08 “290 dead innocent people. What a useless war, where patriotism is bought with money”

16:09 “Thw way the control tower was taken minutes after & knowing all the details, made ​​us think that they [made it]”

16:10 “The face of the soldiers who came later saying [what you just did], no chance for doubts”

16:12 “Such is the decline that military who came first accompanied by foreigners camke to us asking us to tell their version”

16:13 “Our response was, these radars do not collect the launching of missiles, the military ones does, there were no doubts”

 Joining the dots

Has Malaysia Airlines has lost two Boeing 777 planes – in March and July – or only one?

Two identical 777 airlines lost in four months, the same airline? Not likely…

MH 370 (‘MH’ = ‘Malaysian Hospitality’) is the plane which went missing over the Indian Ocean on 8th March. It was a Boeing 777-200, same as the one that has just crashed – here is pic. (click to enlarge)

Boeing_777-200ER_Malaysia March

Notice its tail number 9M MRO

Now here is the Malaysian MH 17 Boeing 777 that was blown out of sky on 17th:


Its tail number is 9M MRD – very similar to that  of the earlier-vanished plane.

A Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777, the same type that was used by MH-17, is stored in a hangar at Ben Gurion International Airport in Tel Aviv. Gosh, fancy that.

The BBC news’ correspondent on the crash site the following day reported bloated bodies and the stench of rotting flesh. Bodies don’t bloat and stink after a day – so they had long been dead. (Thanks C.S. for this)


Stench coming from trainload of rotting bodies, picked up from crash site (click to enlarge).

Russian sources confirm this BBC report that the bodies found in the wake of this crash DID NOT BLEED and hardly burned: they were old, having died some time ago. A Russian commander stated: “a significant number of the bodies weren’t fresh,” adding that he was told “they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.”  Washington Times. (Here is Infowars on the bodies-drained-of-blood story).

Pristine Passports
New passports being scattered on the ground

NO PASSENGER LIST has been published, yet a total of 283 passengers dead is alleged  – whereas, that plane only had 282 seats other space was being used for container-space. “ The pristine passports also tell the story, there was not one recovered that looked the least bit used” – Jim Stone, spot-on as usual. The initial report of 108 Aids doctors killed, (going to Melbourne conference) suddenly down to only 6 the next day – strongly argues that no actual list of passengers exists for that plane. Emirates Airlines was anyhow the official airline for that AIDs conference in Melbourne, offering steep discounts.  (192 Dutch nationals are said to have been killed.)

The daily MH17 flights of Malaysia Airlines CONTINUED the next day – which one would not expect if a planeload of civilians had just been lost (but it will be retired on the 25th). A prediction here, is that DNA tests on the bodies found would match up with those that vanished back in March.

This story gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, ‘the Vampire Elite.’

War Game goes live – the usual story

More than one NATO-Ukraine ‘exercise’  was running in the days leading up to July 17: ‘Sea Breeze’ and Rapid Trident’ . The NATO Black Sea war-games ended on July 17th.   (See also RT’s Cross Talk, July 4th,  7-8 mins into the program): “Seven NATO countries completed naval exercises in the Black Sea on Thursday.”  There is an exact analogy here with the 2004 yearly NATO exercises which were immediately followed by the Madrid bombings. The war-game morphs into the act of terror.